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On the road less travelled => Kampeer plekke en ander Bestemmings => Topic started by: tok-tokkie on January 10, 2008, 09:20:03 AM



Title: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: tok-tokkie on January 10, 2008, 09:20:03 AM
Can we discuss creating a Wiki of information about places we ride to & things we see?

I don't know if it is possible to create a wiki on a blog like this.  Trailrider may not want one here & possibly WD would be a more suitable place.  What have you guys have to say about it.

Trip reports are great but they become very unwieldy after a time & it is a lot of work to look up information in them later.  For example: where to stay in Sutherland?  Which ride report gave information about that.  My thoughts are a Wiki where we can all contribute info about places & things so we slowly create a database of useful info without the superfluous comments and creative writing.  Each entry dated & credited to poster so we can flame them for misleading info (in jest).

EDIT: A wiki allows anyone to ADD to an existing entry


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 09:51:37 AM
I like the idea.

Let me try and see what it entails to get a Wiki up and running.

Never done that before, but then before August last year I've also never got a forum up and running...

Come to think about it - I really think its a good idea. Concise and hopefully accurate info - easy to navigate and find.

Hmmmm


I'll get back to you.

 


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 09:58:19 AM
Sounds like a good idea.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 10:11:21 AM
Ralph, check this out if you have time please ?

http://www.siteground.com/compare_best_wiki.htm

I am busy downloading MediaWiki (the software that WikiPedia was started on), but DokuWiki looks interesting too. They say its been more geared towards documentation - and that might just be more about what you are after.
The middle one (TikiWiki) looks like its the swiss army knife of Wiki's - might end up being too cumbersome.

I'll see if I can get MediaWiki and DocuWiki up and running and then we can start playing around...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Some more reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Here's an example of one in action.
I'm on a music forum as well and they started one.

http://ntrack.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Vanilla install on my site:
http://route42.co.za/mediawiki/



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 04:52:49 PM
Ek was op die Vanilla site, maar ek maak nie kop of stert uit nie. Hoe bigin ek 'n bladsy oor byvoorbeeld akkomodasie in die Hel?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 04:53:53 PM
Ek was op die Vanilla site, maar ek maak nie kop of stert uit nie. Hoe bigin ek 'n bladsy oor byvoorbeeld akkomodasie in die Hel?

Dis die vraag...

Jy moet eers vir jouself 'n user create (regs bo) en van daaraf rondploeter ...

Het jy gesien hoe die n-track een lyk ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 04:54:51 PM
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 04:55:14 PM
Dis alles net so nuut vir my as vir jou...

 :ang: :ang:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 05:02:30 PM
Lyk baie ingewikkeld :-\

of is die ingeWIKIeld?  :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Hoekom 'n Media wiki?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 05:05:01 PM
Lyk baie ingewikkeld :-\

of is die ingeWIKIeld?  :MrGreen:

Bwaaaahahahahahaha!



Media Wiki is die naam van die sagteware.

Soos 'Simple machine's forum"



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
Ooo. Sorry vir die simpel vraag. Ek dog mens kry verskillende WIKI's (soos vir dokumente, media ens.) Jou Padda avatar kan maar ophou lag...


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
 :MrGreen: :MrGreen: :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 06:00:42 PM
Eisbein

Hoe sit mens 'n prentjie op? Hy wys net die link?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 06:24:52 PM
Eisbein

Hoe sit mens 'n prentjie op? Hy wys net die link?



Dis alles net so nuut vir my as vir jou...

 :ang: :ang:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
Grapgat


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
Grapgat
:MrGreen: :MrGreen: :MrGreen: :MrGreen: :MrGreen: :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Pmdb on January 10, 2008, 07:44:22 PM
Lyk my julle tweetjies is hard aan die werk met die Wiki ding, vat 'n break en drink 'n  biertjie  :Cheers: of   :party:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 09:12:59 PM
Dink net as iemand 'n kans vat hier op die forum dan gooi dictator net snippet en "Pmdb solved"

Fixed  :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 10, 2008, 09:40:17 PM
TR, gaan check gou hier:

http://route42.co.za/mediawiki/



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
Nou hoe het jy dit reg gekry? :-\


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 10, 2008, 11:41:55 PM
TR, gaan check gou hier:

http://route42.co.za/mediawiki/

Great.

Tog dink ek 'n banner werk nie noodwendig daar nie :-\

Wat net van die bo links in die hoek by die logo?

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z46/Trailrider_album2/Ander/Forum%20Banners/Wikilogo.png)


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: tok-tokkie on January 11, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
Eisbein.
Now we are getting somewhere.
I wanted to test it by creating an entry for Atakwas.  I had read the FAQ & it is all a bit intimidating.  So I typed Atakwas in the search box &, of course, it failed to find anything.
However in the FAQ for a new page it gives:
"On some wikis, a failed search for a page will contain a link which allows you to edit that page."
Now if that was implemented as a stub for a page then I could, possibly, have started the ball rolling.  Next step would have been to edit the newly created entry.
I honestly think that once a wiki is started it could soon build into a fantastic resource & repository for really useful information - provided we can keep the damned trolls out.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 11, 2008, 11:21:26 AM
Eisbein.
Now we are getting somewhere.
I wanted to test it by creating an entry for Atakwas.  I had read the FAQ & it is all a bit intimidating.  So I typed Atakwas in the search box &, of course, it failed to find anything.
However in the FAQ for a new page it gives:
"On some wikis, a failed search for a page will contain a link which allows you to edit that page."
Now if that was implemented as a stub for a page then I could, possibly, have started the ball rolling.  Next step would have been to edit the newly created entry.
I honestly think that once a wiki is started it could soon build into a fantastic resource & repository for really useful information - provided we can keep the damned trolls out.

That is the cool thing about it - the bad thing is that if I allow anyone to create / edit pages you have no control over what happens.
So you need to at least register yourself as a user before you can add/edit pages...

The admin behind MediaWiki is an absolute nightmare though - I'm still looking at different options...




Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: White Stripes on January 11, 2008, 07:35:18 PM
Sorteer julle nou die tegniese goed uit sodat ons kan begin. :wave1:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Saddam on January 12, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
Vertel hul daar. Ek dink die Wiki is 'n bakgat idee.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2008, 09:28:24 PM
Eisbein - hoe vorder jy? Ek het weer gaan krap maar dinge lyk MOEILIK :-\


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2008, 11:48:30 PM
I have an idea.

Looky here: http://trailrider.route42.co.za/index.php?board=12.0

Could this work?

http://trailrider.route42.co.za/index.php?topic=201.0


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
Check dit gou uit ?


http://route42.co.za/dokuwiki/




Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 03:10:40 PM
Ek sien dit, maar wat doen ek nou? Ek sien nie buttons waar ek 'n page kan begin of iets nie?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 03:16:21 PM
Click op login regs onder en register as new user ...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 03:20:43 PM
Ek is darem nie so hulpeloos nie... :P

Daar is nie 'n button nie. Ek kan jou page edit en dis dit. Die Wiki program is nie userfriendly nie...


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 03:41:59 PM
Ek is darem nie so hulpeloos nie... :P

Daar is nie 'n button nie. Ek kan jou page edit en dis dit. Die Wiki program is nie userfriendly nie...

Ok

Terug na die drawing board ...

*sug*

Of die userinterface is stoopid, of die admin interface is onmoontlik ...

Hier gaat ek...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 03:58:32 PM
Is die Kool die sous werd? Ek is nie 'n IT expert nie, maar ek is ook nie heeltemal stupid nie. Ek is darem bietjie PC literate. Dis 'n moeilike program om te verstaan. Daar is nie dalk 'n alternatief nie? Soos Firefox 'n beter alternatief van Explorer is?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 03:59:48 PM
Is die Kool die sous werd? Ek is nie 'n IT expert nie, maar ek is ook nie heeltemal stupid nie. Ek is darem bietjie PC literate. Dis 'n moeilike program om te verstaan. Daar is nie dalk 'n alternatief nie? Soos Firefox 'n beter alternatief van Explorer is?

Van watter een praat jy nou ?

Ek is besig om nuwe Wiki software te install ...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 04:08:11 PM
Van watter een praat jy nou ?

Se maar? Almal sover was maar ewe moeilik.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 04:09:28 PM
Ek wil nie klink soos 'n klakous nie - net honest feedback. Die ding is, as dit moeilik gaan wees gaan ek waarskynlik nie daar post nie. Dan verloor ons voor ons begin het.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 04:14:17 PM
Ek wonder ook...

Die issue is dat MediaWiki werk lekker vir die front end, maar vet weet dis 'n nagmerrie in die agterkant.

DokuWiki is 'n breeze om te admin, maar die interface is bietjie weird (jy moet 'n search doen vir wat jy soek, en as hy dit nie kan kry nie het jy 'n opsie om die page te create. Dit werk lekker, maar ek weet nog nie hoe om nuwe bladsye na die voorblad te link nie...

Ek kou nog hieroor.

Laat my bietjie oplees soos ek tyd kry.
As ek die ding heeltemal uitgefigure het kan ek post en 'n demo gee...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:21:50 PM
Ek dink ons het 'n winner ...

http://route42.co.za/Wikka/HomePage

Gaan check die eerste bladsy.

I've created the main page, plus the links to the other pages (WikiFormat, LikeThis) and linkbacks to the main page in 3 minutes.

The long and the short:

- Register an account
- Double click any page to edit
- If you put a name/word into the Wiki in the following format : WikiFormat (note the capitalization), it will show that word as a hyperlink in the edited page.
If there isn't a page like that yet you can click on it and it will drop you in the editing view automatically creating the page. After you've edited the page, you can then go back to the initial page and then it will be linked automatically to the new page you created.

This gets me excited.

Example:

You create a doc from the index page called AttakwasKloof.
So then you click on it and edit the page.
You say that there is a 4x4track available but 'sommer' as part of the page description.
Then Trailrider reads your page and decide that he can add info.
He doubleclicks inside the AttakwasKloof page and edit the word 'four by four track', changes it to FourbyFour track and save the page.

Immediately it changes the word on the Attakwas page to a hyperlink. He clicks the 'FourbyFour' link and it drops him in the edit view for that page.

Start typing away and save it.

Immediately you have a cross link into that page from the original.
In that way every page and all the content can be added to.


Go and check it out and tell me what you think...

I am beginning to understand the power behind it...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:33:13 PM
You might have to enable the doubleclick edit feature on signup ...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 05:37:10 PM
Werk nie :-\

As ek wil registreer se hulle daar is klaar 'n Trailrider account. My vorige password werk nie. As ek my password wil retrieve se hulle daar is nie so account nie. Aaaaaaaarg!


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
Werk nie :-\

As ek wil registreer se hulle daar is klaar 'n Trailrider account. My vorige password werk nie. As ek my password wil retrieve se hulle daar is nie so account nie. Aaaaaaaarg!

Dit soek jou naam in WikiFormat

Probeer TrailRider instede van Trailrider



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:40:02 PM
Kom kom - ek wil waai maar wil seker maak jy kan ten minste inkom!

tic toc tic toc



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 05:44:48 PM
Wakka Wakka ek se :MrGreen:

OK. Ek's in.


Dit soek jou naam in WikiFormat

Probeer TrailRider instede van Trailrider


Die program is klaar vol kaark.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:46:56 PM
Dude - dis net die usernaam..

En as jy die register page lees dan s dit jy moet dit so doen:
Quote
Username must be formatted as a WikiName, e.g. JohnDoe


Om jou naam so te maak maak dat jy ook 'n page vir jouself kan create en link daarna toe.
Dis cool stuff...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:48:03 PM
tic toc tic toc



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 05:48:31 PM
Whohaaaa! Ek het op jou page ge-doubleclick. Lyk soos programming :eek:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 05:49:40 PM
En as jy die register page lees

tic toc tic toc

Hey. Kies wat ek moet doen. :evil1:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:50:28 PM
Whohaaaa! Ek het op jou page ge-doubleclick. Lyk soos programming :eek:

Net die formatting...

Ek sien jy't klaar iets bygesit

Sit iets soos HondaCtx by en kyk of jy kan edit



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 05:55:19 PM
Ek sal fotos later uitsort.

In short lyk dit of jy net 'n dubbelhakie aan weerskante van die image se web adres sit.


Lyk dit of jy dit sal kan gebruik (as prentjies maklik ingesit kan word) ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2008, 05:58:49 PM
Lyk so ja :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 16, 2008, 06:05:22 PM
Kyk gou weer jou CTX page...


Sal later vertel - maar daar is 'constraints' in die formaat van die foto...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 12:13:51 AM
Ok - also back to MidiaWiki.

Working with it is like root canal work, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it.

It's between MediaWiki and WikkaWiki at the moment.

http://route42.co.za/mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

This is a little more powerful and userfriendly with regards to adding images and such.

Bliksem...

 :bang: :bang:

I will hopefully have some docs and a proof of concept up after the weekend...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: letsgofishing on January 17, 2008, 08:10:50 AM
Jeepers guys - this seems like a nightmare - thanks Eisbein and TR for all the work you're doing!


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 09:08:04 AM
Jeepers guys - this seems like a nightmare - thanks Eisbein and TR for all the work you're doing!
This far I'm doing some work and TR is 'fault finding' ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :ang: :ang: :ang: :ang:

Pleasure - I actually like the learning curve, as it is something that I want to get my head around for more reasons than just this.

Cool stuff...


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
 :P


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 09:27:04 AM
 :ang: :ang: :ang: :ang: :ang:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
This looks interesting:

http://wikkawiki.org/WikkaWithSMF

In short it links WikkaWiki to SMF (this forum) and allows forum members to be able to edit and add pages.
This can be very cool for keeping it safer.

Disable the register page on the Wiki and the only way you can edit there is if you are a member of the forum.

Will read some more about this.



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 01:56:34 PM
What does this say? :MrGreen:

$this->SetUser($existingUser);
                      // lets go through the forum
                       $forumurl = "http://yourdomain.com/forum/index.php?action=login2&user=".$_POST['name']."&passwrd=".$_POST['password']."&refer=wiki ";
                       $this->Redirect($forumurl);
                       //$this->Redirect($this->href());


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 05:06:50 PM
Ok - MediaWiki is now back in the running.

I've manage to figure out how to edit the nav bar on the left and how to link photos (and upload them if need be).

So this weekend I'll look at other tweaks, but for now it looks doable.

http://www.route42.co.za/mediawiki
 

I've disabled anonymous edit rights, but registration is quick and easy.

To add a link to a page (and create the page) somewhere, go to something like 'Accommodation main page' in the nav bar on the left.

It will show two entries at the moment - Attakwas and Testing Photo upload.

If you want to add another header, just click on 'Edit' on the top menu or double click in the document.

Create a new 'header' that looks like  the other two in this format: ==[[Whatever]]==

The "==" on either side makes the size bigger and the "[[" tells the system that it is a link to another page.

Then you save it.

Click on the name you just created and it will drop you in the edit view.

There you can type away and save.


If you want to add (upload) a photo from your PC, in the edit view click on the photo icon on top.
It will then put this in: [[Image:Example.jpg]]
Rename the example.jpg to anything [[Image:whateverphoto.jpg]]

Save.

Now click on the photo link.

It will tell you that it doesn't exist and it will ask you if you want to upload.

Choose the photo locally - you can leave the name of the destination as is - that's what you just typed in the previous step.
If you upload it it will drop you in in the photoview and you can then go back to the original document and look at the photo.


It is however still the easiest to link a photo from photobucket or such...
In the edit view just put the URL (address of the photo) - no [ img ] tags, no BB code, just the direct path to the photo.
The wiki software will know its a photo and display it.

I think it is at a point where we can safely say that the technology might just do what we want it to do.

I'll look this weekend at customizing the look and feel and editing/arranging stuff to make more logical sense.

At this stage we are still proving the software and technology.

Please play around with it and tell me what you think.

Thanks!

W.





Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 05:13:14 PM
Ek het dit 'n sticky gemaak sodat dit nie verdwyn nie.



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 05:28:09 PM
Ek kan nie die foto van photobucket laai nie want ek kan nie "paste" in die adres lyn nie. Ek moes die foto na my rekenaar save en weer upload na Wiki.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 05:31:07 PM
Ek kan nie die foto van photobucket laai nie want ek kan nie "paste" in die adres lyn nie. Ek moes die foto na my rekenaar save en weer upload na Wiki.

ja jy kan...

Gaan edit weer die bladsy en kyk hoe ek dit gedoen het.

Net die link van die foto...


Edit : net soos dit - copy en paste hierdie net so in die edit area in - geen tags of niks anders nie:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o55/Trailrider_album/P2240069.jpg




Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 05:38:06 PM
 :Thumb:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 05:40:37 PM
Jy kan later die foto upload ook toets, maar ek is seker daarvan dat jy dit nie baie gaan gebruik nie.

Photobucket links is baie maklik.


Begin die ding darem nou al nader kom aan bruikbaar van jou point of view ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 05:47:19 PM
Ja... Lyk so.  ;)

Ek wil gou iets toets met Flock.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 17, 2008, 05:55:17 PM
Flock se user friendly interface werk nie met Wiki nie. :-\ Wiki se program is seker so oud soos WEG se forum program :MrGreen:

Ek het darem kon post. ;)


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 17, 2008, 05:57:49 PM
Cool!

As ek kyk wat alles daar is in die kort tyd is die transition vanaf jou blog formaat na Wiki toe darem seker nie te traumaties nie ...


 ;D ;D ;D


Speel rond en laat my weet wat jy wil verander h - (funksionaliteit - ons kan later na cosmetics omsien) en dan kan ek kyk of ek dit kan regkroek...




Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 18, 2008, 09:06:13 AM
Is die Wiki privaat of sal ons posting opkom in 'n Wiki search?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 18, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
Is die Wiki privaat of sal ons posting opkom in 'n Wiki search?

As jy dit kan lees sonder om in te log is dit nie privaat nie.

Ek moet ook nog die license verander, wat tegnies gesproke op die stadium as jy enigiets daar intik word dit public property.
(GNU license)

So dis op die stadium nog net vir toets en speel en uitfigure hoe alles werk.

Ek gaan heelwaarskynlik alles wipe as ons weet wat ons wil h en dit van voor af reg opstel.

So moenie te veel ernstige posts begin maak nie.



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: White Stripes on January 19, 2008, 09:46:56 AM
 :sign:

Ek wag.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 19, 2008, 11:51:26 AM
:sign:

Ek wag.

Grapgat!

Het jy al bietjie gaan rondkrap daar ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: tok-tokkie on January 21, 2008, 01:56:07 PM
Eisbein, tell us what happened over the weekend.
I would like to do what I can to get this thing going.  I am interested but absolutely not wanting to put any pressure on you - looking at the bits that you have shown it is a mission to find your way in that stuff.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 21, 2008, 01:58:35 PM
Hehe..

My Saturday didn't pan out as I wanted (apart from the early morning ride, but I was back home at 10:30) - didn't have time to look at it further.

I'll get round to it this week with just a quick couple of notes on how you do certain stuff...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 22, 2008, 08:27:21 AM
OK. Ons moet die ding van die grond af kry. Wat kort nog? Ek sien daar is topics bygesit. Kan mens sien wie dit begin het en wie almal bygedra het?

Tok Tokkie - was that you? White Stripes? As ons die posting ding onder die knie het op die Wiki kan ons seker begin?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 22, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
Ek het die Karmel een ingesit om vir iemand anders te wys.

As almal weet hoe om te post en happy is met die funksionaliteit gaan ek alles skoonmaak en skoon installeer.
Dan kan ons die look customize en begin.

Proof of concept, customization, pilot en dan live - ons is nou eers nog by die proof of concept...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 22, 2008, 09:55:03 AM
OK OK. Ek sal geduldig wees. :)

Was jy al by Carmel?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 22, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
Daardie Carmel is die kampterrein ('n pel van my operate sy besigheid daar) in Franschhoek.

 :ride1: :ride1:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 22, 2008, 10:04:02 AM
Ooo. Ek dog dis die een hier by Vic Baai.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 22, 2008, 10:05:11 AM
Daar's 'n Carmel by Vic baai ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 22, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
Ja - 'n Christelike vakansieplaas. Hulle bied jeug kampe en huwelik seminare ens. ens. aan.

Toe ek 16 was het ek daar uit 'n boom op my kop geval :MrGreen: Was 2 dae lights out. Seker waar ek my knou gekry het... :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: tok-tokkie on January 22, 2008, 12:36:13 PM
Ja - 'n Christelike vakansieplaas. Hulle bied jeug kampe en huwelik seminare ens. ens. aan.

Toe ek 16 was het ek daar uit 'n boom op my kop geval :MrGreen: Was 2 dae lights out. Seker waar ek my knou gekry het... :MrGreen:
Hell that speaks volumes.  All has been revealed.  Don't ever get better - you are just fine in your current altered state.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 22, 2008, 12:46:36 PM
Ja - 'n Christelike vakansieplaas. Hulle bied jeug kampe en huwelik seminare ens. ens. aan.

Toe ek 16 was het ek daar uit 'n boom op my kop geval :MrGreen: Was 2 dae lights out. Seker waar ek my knou gekry het... :MrGreen:
Hell that speaks volumes.  All has been revealed.  Don't ever get better - you are just fine in your current altered state.

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 23, 2008, 04:22:18 PM
Proof of concept, customization, pilot en dan live - ons is nou eers nog by die proof of concept...

Waars ons nou? :MrGreen:


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 23, 2008, 04:42:15 PM
Proof of concept, customization, pilot en dan live - ons is nou eers nog by die proof of concept...

Waars ons nou? :MrGreen:

Dink jy dis bruikbaar ?

Moet ons die ding probeer skin ?

Dalk al by customization ?



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 23, 2008, 04:47:32 PM
Yay!


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Operator on January 23, 2008, 06:19:04 PM
Ja - 'n Christelike vakansieplaas. Hulle bied jeug kampe en huwelik seminare ens. ens. aan.

Toe ek 16 was het ek daar uit 'n boom op my kop geval :MrGreen: Was 2 dae lights out. Seker waar ek my knou gekry het... :MrGreen:
Hell that speaks volumes.  All has been revealed.  Don't ever get better - you are just fine in your current altered state.

9/11 on

Dit verklaar baie........  :loco: :loco:     

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

9/11 off


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 23, 2008, 07:51:46 PM
Ja ja...  ::)


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Sweeper on January 24, 2008, 08:08:18 AM
Ja - 'n Christelike vakansieplaas. Hulle bied jeug kampe en huwelik seminare ens. ens. aan.

Toe ek 16 was het ek daar uit 'n boom op my kop geval :MrGreen: Was 2 dae lights out. Seker waar ek my knou gekry het... :MrGreen:
Hell that speaks volumes.  All has been revealed.  Don't ever get better - you are just fine in your current altered state.

9/11 on

Dit verklaar baie........  :loco: :loco:     

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

9/11 off
Dink nou net as jy op jou gat geval het was jy OK.  (Hardegat)


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 24, 2008, 08:53:29 AM
Grapgat ;D


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Sweeper on January 25, 2008, 08:16:54 AM
How easy it would be now to hijack this thread with "gat" jokes. >:D


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 25, 2008, 08:25:31 AM
 :MrGreen:

Wil jy nou he die Wiki sticky moet sy gat sien? ;)

Eisbein - Waar trek ons nou? :MrGreen: Are we there yet?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 25, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
Proof of concept, customization, pilot en dan live - ons is nou eers nog by die proof of concept...

Waars ons nou? :MrGreen:

Dink jy dis bruikbaar ?

Moet ons die ding probeer skin ?

Dalk al by customization ?

Are we in agreement that we'll go with the actual Wiki? Can I remove the experimental Wiki board on this forum?


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: tok-tokkie on January 25, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
Sure.  But post "Creating a topic for dummies" & "Adding to a topic for dummies" with numbered step by step checklist we can print out for reference when using it.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 25, 2008, 06:45:19 PM
Good idea.

I put a "Wiki" topic under general.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 25, 2008, 10:42:21 PM
Sure.  But post "Creating a topic for dummies" & "Adding to a topic for dummies" with numbered step by step checklist we can print out for reference when using it.

I will do that this weekend.

Thanks for everyone's patience...



Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Trailrider on January 28, 2008, 07:11:37 AM
Soooo Eisbein - what do you do in the middle of the night? :MrGreen:

Thanks for the great post under Wiki. :evil1: Seems easy enough.

A couple of questions:

I'm used to posting ride reports. What should the posts on the Wiki look like? Facts only I know, but is there a certain way or template? Maybe you or Tok Tokkie can post a topic and set the standard?

Under routes - Would that be something like the road through Baviaans Kloof or rather Wine Routes / Hops routes / Route 62?

How about places to eat? Lets say I wanted to include a good restaurant in a certain town. At first I thought we should have a different section, but somehow I feel that info should be with the info of that town. Can a topic (like a town) have sub sections about it's restaurants, wildlife, interesting / historic places etc?

Thanks for everything so far. It is going to be an invaluable source.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Rustyb on January 28, 2008, 08:31:27 AM
He was online like me.
My wife was working nightshift so I got up to speed on the Weg and WS forum. Did some posting, uploaded some photos, gave some stick to a few members, the usual.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 28, 2008, 08:46:14 AM
Soooo Eisbein - what do you do in the middle of the night? :MrGreen:

Thanks for the great post under Wiki. :evil1: Seems easy enough.

A couple of questions:

I'm used to posting ride reports. What should the posts on the Wiki look like? Facts only I know, but is there a certain way or template? Maybe you or Tok Tokkie can post a topic and set the standard?

Under routes - Would that be something like the road through Baviaans Kloof or rather Wine Routes / Hops routes / Route 62?

How about places to eat? Lets say I wanted to include a good restaurant in a certain town. At first I thought we should have a different section, but somehow I feel that info should be with the info of that town. Can a topic (like a town) have sub sections about it's restaurants, wildlife, interesting / historic places etc?

Thanks for everything so far. It is going to be an invaluable source.

Yo!

We can always subcategorize things - under routes, if someone feel the need for a wine route, we can make a new subpage under 'Routes' for '4x4', 'Dual Sport Biking', 'Leisure' etc. So we can end up having posts about places like Gysmanshoek, Route 62, Stellenbosch wine route etc. I think only using it and seeing what ends up there will determine where its going to go to.
I suspect we'll have more interesting routes in the DS frame of mind though.
Same thing with places to eat and such.

If we end up needing another subheading then we add one.

Easy...



Its about the information and getting it structured.

Re the format, I think factual would be cool. Maybe start off (if its a route) with a smallish map (and maybe GPS co-ords if someone have it).
A very concise description of the type of road, the type of ride, the skill level needed (always subjective) - how long distance before fuel stops, pricing of accommodation etc.
 
It will be useful if at 1st glance you can look at the top of the page and see all the info regarding the type of ride and the requirements and what you let yourself in for.
If you want to elaborate a little regarding the experience with a photo or two that is very cool, but I think keeping it factual will probably be best.
We can look at a couple of posts and then decide on a type of format.


Title: Re: Wiki of places & things.
Post by: Eisbein on January 28, 2008, 12:06:49 PM
This is the new Wiki development chat board:

Changes / suggestions and questions can be posted here: http://trailrider.route42.co.za/index.php?board=14.0

The 1st quick 'How to' post is here:
http://trailrider.route42.co.za/index.php?topic=276.0