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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2010, 07:23:32 AM »

The Mossel Bay Tourism Board announced its intention of reviving the Choo-Tjoe steam train, albeit on a shorter route.

Tourism Board director Andre Strauss announced at a Mossel Bay Business Chamber meeting that they are applying to privatise the line between Hartenbos and Mossel Bay in order to restore a steam train on shorter branch lines.

"Mossel Bay has all the right to claim some of the steam amenities and artifacts as national treasures for itself," he said.
It will include the Voorbaai steam depot, the only remaining steam depot in the country that still belongs to Spoornet.
Knysna businessman Allan McVitty, who had previously tendered unsuccessfully to take over the Choo Tjoe, said a steam train between Hartenbos and Mossel Bay could also be operated as a commuter train. The town will once again have to establish a station.

"Running a train between Hartenbos and Mossel Bay on a regular basis is just so much more viable than over a longer stretch. This will give tourists as well as residents a direct access to the waterfront, the CBD and alleviate traffic congestion, especially during the summer season," he added.

Some of the new stops that could be incorporated included Langeberg Mall, Dias Strand and Santos Beach. The existing railway line already runs along the length of the town, without cutting through it.

A commuter system between Little Brak or even Great Brak and Mossel Bay as well as a track down to the Point were also possibilities mentioned. The increase in passengers on cruise liners that stop over in Mossel Bay could also benefit from such a service.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2010, 04:34:34 PM »

 Scratch  TR ek weet nie so mooi nie!
Ek is seker hulle het die spoorlyn in voorbaai heeltemal verwyder?
Miskien kan iemand van daar meer vertel?
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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2011, 10:26:59 AM »

Save the Choo-Tjoe



The Outeniqua Choo-Tjoe may have stopped running between George and Mossel Bay, but its list of fans is growing.

"Facebook is a fantastic way of keeping in touch with the many thousands of people who loved the train that became the Garden Route’s iconic attraction," said Mossel Bay Tourism’s Marcia Holm, who created the Facebook group ‘Save the Outeniqua Choo Tjoe’ earlier this year.

The service was closed by its owner, Transnet, because the company had failed to find a suitable bidder after its decision to sell it off as a going concern.

"The Outeniqua Choo-Tjoe was a national asset that drew hundreds of thousands of visitors to this area, increased foot-flow to both the Outeniqua Transport Museum in George and the Diaz Museum Complex in Mossel Bay, and provided a reason for many, many tour groups to stay a second or even third night in the region," said Holm.

But, she said, the struggle to see a re-launch of the much-loved steam train service hasn’t ended.

"We’re hoping to see a new operator create a limited service between Mossel Bay and Hartenbos in the near future.

"This route makes sense because it passes through the historic and strategically important Voorbaai Yards - the last nationally owned steam maintenance facility in the country - and because, since it’s confined to a an urban area, there’s a limited threat of veld fires, so the train can run on steam every day.

"It’s also a much shorter route than before, so the use of water is limited - which is an important consideration in an area that’s recently come through the worst drought in over a century," she said.

Holm said that the train could become both a commuter and a tourist service. "Especially in the holiday season, Mossel Bay would benefit from any relief of pressure on the roads."

In the meantime, she said, the Facebook page is providing a lively forum for discussion about a possible future service.

"We recently asked ‘If there was another service and it can’t be called the Outeniqua Choo-Tjoe, what name would you suggest?’ and were rewarded with many creative suggestions, including Magda Van Eyk’s Garden Route Choo-Tjoe, Brett Lamerton’s Garden Route Express, Johan Andreas du Plessis’ Garden Route Rail Adventures, Jade Wilson’s Mossel Bay Flyer, Outeniqua Wanderer and Outeniqua Explorer, Ben Weingartz’ Diaz Express, and Glenn Lewington’s Garden Route Puffer.

"In truth, there isn’t any service at the moment, but the Facebook group proves that there is a definite demand for one."
Holm emphasised that the group is growing, even though the train stopped running as far back as September. "Nearly 60 people joined over the Day of Reconciliation weekend alone."

She said that any news on the future of the service would be announced both in the formal media and via the group, and she called on tour companies, steam train enthusiasts, local accommodation providers, and concerned friends to join, and to take part in the conversations.

"Any potential operator is going to take a group of this size seriously," she said. To join, search ‘Save the Outeniqua Choo-Tjoe’ on Facebook.
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« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2011, 11:06:48 AM »

Die probleem is dat 'n Facebook groep eintlik maar 'n novelty idee is...........

Mense wat "fans" is van die trein, koop nie noodwendig die kaartjies wat nodig
is om die projek ekonomies lewensvatbaar te maak nie.

Persoonlik dink ek dat Facebook groepe dra geen krag nie. Evil
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« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2011, 11:40:57 AM »


Mense wat "fans" is van die trein, koop nie noodwendig die kaartjies nie.


Dis wat ek ook gedink het.
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« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2011, 05:19:52 PM »

Ek het gister al met die spoor langs geloop van Wildernis tot naby Vic-baai. Dit gaan baaie meer vat as 'n "facebook" groepie om daai sppor te herstel.

Interesante ou (gay-rasta) raak geloop wat in oorhang/grot net voor die Kaaimans brug langs die spoor 'n fasiliteit in stand hou waar backpackers oornag asook die odd hawelose. Dis baie skoon en netjies met verskeie vertrekke asook lekker binnebraai en buitebraai met baie mooi uitsig. Jy moet loop tot daar met jou rugsak.
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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2011, 07:10:55 PM »

Daai grot was 'n restourant toe die trein nog geloop het.

Die spoor Knysna toe sal seker nooit weer oop nie. Undecided
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« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2011, 07:39:11 PM »

Daai grot was 'n restourant toe die trein nog geloop het.


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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2011, 07:55:00 PM »

Ek het gister al met die spoor langs geloop van Wildernis tot naby Vic-baai. Dit gaan baaie meer vat as 'n "facebook" groepie om daai sppor te herstel.

Interesante ou (gay-rasta) raak geloop wat in oorhang/grot net voor die Kaaimans brug langs die spoor 'n fasiliteit in stand hou waar backpackers oornag asook die odd hawelose. Dis baie skoon en netjies met verskeie vertrekke asook lekker binnebraai en buitebraai met baie mooi uitsig. Jy moet loop tot daar met jou rugsak.

Whow, dit klink interessant. Kan enigiemand daar gaan oornag Pmdb? Nogal die 1ste keer wat ek hoor van 'n gay-rasta. Seker 'n baie interessante ou? Sal hom een of ander tyd moet gaan ontmoet en sommer daar oorslaap ook. Imagine jy sit daar in die aand laat met 'n leka vuurtjie wat brand......... MMMMMmmmmm hoe lus kry ek nou vir so iets doen.  Big Grin
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2011, 08:11:38 PM »

Die ou het sulke lang rasta-hare en is bietjie verfynd. Dit ruik heerlik soet daar binne, moet bobbejaan-twak wees. Die paar "gaste" wat daar was wat ek gesien het was almal manlik  smirk

Daar is water en riool maar dit lyk nie of daar krag is nie.

Sal self daar wil sit, maar my vrou moet maar die agterhoede dek.  Evil
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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2011, 10:01:25 AM »

Mag rastas dan gay wees? Evil Dit klink goed. Die feit is gewone mense doen gewoontlik gewone boring goed. Dit verg 'n alternatiewe persoon om so iets te laat werk! Smile
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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2011, 04:58:57 PM »



In an ongoing effort to resurrect the Outeniqua Choo-Tjoe train service between George and Knysna, Western Cape minister of finance and tourism, Alan Winde, asked the new public enterprises minister, Mr Malusi Gigaba, for a meeting to discuss the transfer of the train to the Western Cape government.

Toward the end of last year, the train had come to a complete halt when its licence to transport passengers expired. Since then, it has been lying idle to the dismay of many, including Winde.

On a recent trip to Knysna, he surveyed sections of the line and realised just how much work would need to be done to get the Choo-Tjoe back up and running. Nevertheless, Winde is determined to see it happen.

Last year, the provincial government applied to take over the train and the line it runs on. "Although it is a complicated process, this would allow us to put it out to tender and, ultimately, come up with a solution to save it. Regrettably, in late October last year, the minister of public enterprises was replaced, slowing the response from national government," said Winde.

"The transfer of ownership of the train is a priority issue that needs to be addressed quickly if we are to preserve the train as a heritage icon. The longer it lies idle, the harder it will be to get it back on the tracks. "In addition, the Garden Route has gone through a tourist season without one of its major attractions, leaving many hopeful Choo-Tjoers disappointed."
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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2011, 06:19:55 PM »

What is the powervan that runs along the track on Montagu Pass ?
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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2011, 07:12:10 PM »

Not a Steam Train.

Just a van with a 3L Ford Cortina engine.
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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2011, 07:31:51 PM »

Is it a tourist attraction and does it run all year ? Also from where to where does it run ?
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« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2011, 09:32:47 AM »

Yes it runs from the train Museum in George up the mountain and back. Sundowner trips etc.
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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2011, 02:52:35 PM »

  Eek! R 580.00 a trip.  Eek!
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« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2011, 02:56:47 PM »

R85/person, minimum 20 people

http://www.rummage.co.za/George-Garden-Route-South-Africa-Power-Van_content_op_view_id_44
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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2011, 03:07:10 PM »

 Eek! R 580.00 a trip.  Eek!

That is what I read on a web page that popped up on Google. Possibly for the whole group, but I recall it as per person.
Now it is at least back on my to do list.

George - Power VanDESCRIPTION
Trips on rail with the Outeniqua Power Van are some of the most popular tourist attractions in the Garden Route. This unique eco experience can be enjoyed from the comfort of your carriage while enjoying one of the most scenic railway passes in the country. Experience the forest, four passes, waterfalls, 6 tunnels, fynbos, flowers, birds and animal with panoramic views.


http://www.toursforsouthafrica.com/tours/half-day-tours/george-power-van?tour=yes

INCLUDESEXCLUDESPRICEGuided Standard Tours, Vehicle, Driver, Fuel, Entrance Fees, Light Lunch. Please Note that a minimum of 5 passengers is required. Prices are subjected to Rate Changes. Terms and Conditions Apply.
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R580.00 Per Person
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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2011, 03:14:16 PM »

What you saw was a full tour with transport to/from the powervan etc. it seems, that would explain the price.
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